Proof It’s Possible
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Proof It’s Possible
Rich Girls Don't
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Welcome back to Proof It's Possible! This lively conversation explores the mindset and habits of 'rich girls'—those who live intentionally, take action, and prioritize joy. From travel and self-worth to manifestation and boundaries, learn how to adopt these empowering principles for a rich-girl life. Tune in to discover why rich girls don't:
- Wait for the "perfect" time to travel
- Tie their self-worth to previous outcomes
- Manifest but don't move
- Have desperate energy anywhere in their life
- Put themselves last or forget to prioritize their joy
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Dayle Sheehan (00:01.422)
Welcome back. Today we are chatting about the things that rich girls do not do. Jamie, take it away.
Jamie (00:09.79)
Yeah. Okay, so I thought this fun series could be just like a little off the cuff like rich girls don't. So I'll start. girls don't wait for retirement to travel or the perfect time or you know the in five years I'm gonna do my traveling. Rich girls travel now because they have the energy for it because
Dayle Sheehan (00:20.536)
All right.
Dayle Sheehan (00:28.268)
Yes.
Dayle Sheehan (00:32.333)
Yes.
Jamie (00:37.408)
There's so many lessons that are learned during travel. They want to, they have time freedom. That's what rich girls do. They do it in the moment and they don't wait for the perfect time.
Dayle Sheehan (00:44.462)
clean.
Dayle Sheehan (00:50.828)
I so agree with this because I do feel like that's like a blocker. I think if you're you've got all this big long bucket list that you're going to tackle one day. But today you change nothing to get towards that bucket list and you don't even take the weekend away to Banff. Like if that's all you've got the money for or like you know what I mean? For me it's Banff because that's an hour and a half away. But you know you don't go to like local.
Jamie (01:00.704)
Mm-hmm.
Dayle Sheehan (01:18.99)
that you think is really pretty and a nice two nights away, one night away, whatever, you don't treat yourself along the way. We are like living life now. And before you know it, you'll be 60 years old, 70 years old, 80 years old. You'll be like, I ended up getting cancer. So now I can't travel because I can't get health insurance. And you literally miss the journey of all of this. Like you're doing this for your life now, not.
Jamie (01:44.287)
Yes.
Jamie (01:48.484)
Yeah, it's the old saying like happiness is not a destination. It's the journey and you can't wait for someday. When I first met Ray, he believed like wholeheartedly that airplane travel was for the rich. he couldn't possibly hop on an airplane because that was reserved for like, you know.
Dayle Sheehan (01:48.568)
for some day.
Dayle Sheehan (01:53.696)
It's not. That's very, true.
Dayle Sheehan (02:07.081)
really?
Jamie (02:15.839)
the rich, the elites of the world. And I was like, what are you talking about? To the point where he lived a 30 something hour drive away from where his family was and he would drive it. He would drive versus fly across Canada.
Dayle Sheehan (02:16.152)
Yeah.
Dayle Sheehan (02:27.692)
What?
I think honestly though, I think that's a lot of men. Like when I met Darren, he took a lot of trips, but they were like fancy fishing trips. But he drove to them for sure. They were not like long, they were far away because Canada is a huge place, but like he would absolutely not take a plane to get there. And so maybe that's just.
Jamie (02:53.319)
Yeah, I mean the crazy thing is that like the amount of gas money that it takes to get across the country costs more than the plane ticket. So it's like, it's such a, but it is the proof that when you have this hold back or this money block or you've got like preconceived notions about something, it can really change who you are. So for me, rich girls don't wait. They don't wait to travel. They do it in the moment when they want to. Okay, what's yours?
Dayle Sheehan (02:57.58)
Yeah. Yes.
Exactly.
Dayle Sheehan (03:09.102)
or just the thought that planes are for? Yes.
Yeah. No, I agree.
Yeah, I agree. Rich girls do not tie their self worth and their ability to do the next big thing to the outcome of the last thing. And I know that this is very, very hard, but it is a skill that we all have to learn and master is that, for instance, if I put a proposal out there, I have to literally press send and say,
If I get it, it's meant to be. If I don't get it, zero feelings are hurt. I move on to the next. There's a million more clients in the world. And truth be told, I know it's the universe having my back. If I don't get that client, they weren't meant to be. They're not my client. And I don't even literally think about it again. Once I send it, I'm like, God, I forgot to follow up with that person. And sometimes I'll remember to follow up.
Jamie (04:16.832)
Thanks.
Dayle Sheehan (04:18.018)
And I'll be like, hey, not sure if you read my proposal, even received it, I just wanted to check in like a week later or something. And they'll be like, I'm so sorry. Yeah, I forgot all about it, but I do want to do it. And then sometimes they're like, no, I picked somebody else. And I'm like, great, I wish you luck. If you ever need a hand in the future, let me know. And like, I send all of those with genuine, genuine happiness for them that they found the person that's the right match for them.
Jamie (04:42.432)
And I am here to tell you, your ability to hear no and how well you take that is directly proportional to how much income you earn. Hearing no needs to become so second nature to you that you have zero emotion tied up in it, that you're like, great, wonderful. Like exactly what you're saying is that, you like you don't care one way or another. You don't have an emotion. You don't have an outcome that needs to happen for you to be like.
Dayle Sheehan (04:50.648)
Mm-hmm.
Exactly.
Dayle Sheehan (04:57.546)
Exactly.
Jamie (05:12.736)
Okay, I feel good about that. If it's a no, then it's not right. And if it's a yes, great, well, let's do this. But
Dayle Sheehan (05:13.186)
Well, I, yeah, and we, exactly. Well, and with the name of this podcast, Proof It's Possible, I've had enough proof that the ones that you're like, well, I do it for less if you're interested, or you talk in, you make sure you do the side door deal, they are not worth it. They should have went the direction they wanted to go, got the service they were willing to pay for.
Jamie (05:34.484)
Yeah.
Dayle Sheehan (05:41.306)
And then they could have came back to you and paid you your price if they didn't get what they wanted because they become your hardest client. They become your longest client. They become the one that you didn't make any money because you traded way too much time for it. So you have to also believe it in your gut. You can't just say it. You have to truly, truly be like, good, they found the right person and it wasn't me and that's okay.
Jamie (05:55.776)
Mm-hmm.
Jamie (06:05.906)
Okay, my next one, rich girls don't manifest but not move. So what I mean by that is that like you're dreaming of your income goals, you're dreaming of your business, you're manifesting it, you're praying for it, you're thinking about it, you're envisioning what it would feel like to own it, but you don't take any action to get there. That's something rich girls do not do. They do the opposite.
Dayle Sheehan (06:15.522)
Yeah.
Dayle Sheehan (06:26.284)
making lists, yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Jamie (06:35.506)
and they take action, they manifest and they take action because both are necessary in order to have a successful business. I don't believe that pure manifestation will get you where you need to be. There has to be action associated with it and there has to be risk. I'm telling you, there has to be some kind of risk associated to doing the thing or else you just won't do it. Like you might start it.
But unless you got skin in the game, whether that's financial or your reputation's on the line or you made a promise to yourself, a promise to your friend, whatever that looks like, you gotta have some skin in the game and you have to take daily action or weekly action or action of any kind. You can't just sit there and think about your dreams. You actually have to
Dayle Sheehan (07:14.734)
whatever.
Dayle Sheehan (07:28.622)
I agree. And one more point to that is that the universe loves speed. When I have an idea that I'm excited about, I act on it fast. I will like, you know, design the logo on Canva the same night that I think of it. And or I'll start writing out the course that I want to make next for our Rich Girls Chorus Club. Because I'm not willing to sit on it for weeks and months and years because the things that I put off, they're literally sitting.
Jamie (07:33.853)
my god.
Jamie (07:38.463)
Mm-hmm.
Dayle Sheehan (07:58.978)
and they're years old and they never will come to life. Yeah, they die. Yep.
Jamie (08:00.225)
Well, and they die. They are a train in motion that has now stopped and it's impossible to get going again.
Dayle Sheehan (08:08.394)
Exactly. So move quickly.
Jamie (08:11.07)
Yeah, I agree with that.
Dayle Sheehan (08:13.614)
Rich girls do not have desperate energy in any area of their life. I am watching Love is Blind right now. And if this show can teach you anything about life, it's about your energy. And you can have, I don't care if you're dating, I don't care if you are making new friends or meeting the new parents on your kid's sports team, or if you are trying to get clients.
Jamie (08:22.976)
It's true.
Dayle Sheehan (08:43.2)
It doesn't matter what area of your life you're talking about. If you have that pick me energy versus that self-assured, it will work if it works, we will not be friends if we will not be friends, this isn't the right guy for me if he breaks up with me, know, chasing somebody, chasing anything. It stinks. It's such a bad, bad quality.
And one of the girls on Love is Blind, I forget the exact term that she used, but it was so funny. No, I don't forget. I know exactly what she said. She's like, you know, me and my friends, we get really offended. I thought it was hilarious because it's true. She's like, we get really offended. like, why are we letting these medium ugly guys break up with us? Like in the real world, that's what they were talking about. And I'm like, because you started dating the medium ugly guy and let him have all the control.
Jamie (09:39.284)
Yep.
Dayle Sheehan (09:39.426)
That was the mistake. It's not that he's better than you, it's that you let him position himself that he was better than you. And so he got to feel like the leader of the pack and it wasn't like whether you'd like to go on another date with him, he knew you would. And so he was like, yeah, she's just chasing me and I don't need to put up with this. Meanwhile, he's a medium ugly. And I thought it was hilarious that she called the guy a medium ugly, because I just thought that's a whole...
like such a funny way to describe. But you know, it's clients. We have medium ugly clients where we're like, this has got red flags all over it, but I'm gonna still get it because I just wanna make money or I wanna get a client to, you know, tick the box that I did it. And it's like, no, actually, if the client's not, doesn't feel good, you shouldn't say yes. And then the universe will be like, girl, you know what you want.
Jamie (10:10.067)
It's hilarious.
Jamie (10:30.4)
100%. And I think desperate energy enters the room before you do. Like if you're giving off that like, I just need, I need a sale today. I'm, you know, that desperate energy or like, I hope everyone likes my products or like.
Dayle Sheehan (10:36.514)
It does.
Dayle Sheehan (10:42.787)
Yeah.
Dayle Sheehan (10:47.726)
Yeah. Or like, I mean, even with clothes, I always think you can look around a restaurant or a room or a party and you can tell who loves their outfit, who feels amazing, who's casually chatting, holding their drink, you know, whatever, having a great time, totally engrossed in the actual moment of the conversation they're in versus the person that's like, I'm uncomfortable in outfit. I don't think this looks good. Pulls down their shirt, constantly adjusting their sleeves, you know, looking down and being like, oh, where are my hands?
just like fidgeting, they have different energy than the person that's totally relaxed, haven't thought about their outfit since they looked in the mirror on their way out the door, and won't think about it again until the next time they put that dress on. You know?
Jamie (11:31.307)
Yep. Have you ever like convinced a friend that she looks the bomb in an outfit? Cause she really needed a new outfit for her date or for her work event or whatever the situation was. And then she shows up at the thing and you're like, but why are you? Yeah. It just doesn't look that good because she doesn't feel that good in it. That's the, that's the desperate energy. You wanted it so badly for her, but she's not feeling good about it. And now she's thinking to herself like,
Dayle Sheehan (11:37.23)
Mm-hmm. Yep.
Dayle Sheehan (11:50.955)
Exactly.
Dayle Sheehan (11:56.77)
No.
Jamie (11:59.639)
I wonder if it's enough. I too, is it too low cut? Is it too revealing? She's got that desperate, the unconfident energy. So 1000.
Dayle Sheehan (12:06.51)
When I dress like you, like when I get influenced by you, because you love like color and bright patterns and crazy things and you know, flowers and all that. And I'm like, this is a cute dress, like Jay will like it. I'm gonna get it. I wear it and I'm like, Jesus, I look like an idiot today. This doesn't feel like me. It is totally not. It's flowery. It's not my style at all. And like, you'll even say like, I love your dress. And I'm like,
Jamie (12:12.736)
Flowers.
Dayle Sheehan (12:35.534)
Do you though? Like, oh, this thing, such a foolish outfit. But it's cause it's not my style and it doesn't matter if it's a nice dress. If I'm not wearing it with confidence, it doesn't look as good.
Jamie (12:38.698)
Mm-hmm.
Jamie (12:47.242)
Absolutely. Desperate energy, it reeks.
Dayle Sheehan (12:50.678)
It reeks, so don't do it.
Jamie (12:52.372)
Okay, my next one is rich girls don't put themselves last or forget to put themselves on the list at all. And what I mean by that is like, I mean, we're all guilty of it, but doing for other people, giving for other people, giving to our clients and not checking in with yourself to be like, does this actually work for me though? Do I actually want to do this? Or even more in your like family unit for me, it's like, sometimes I'll buy
Dayle Sheehan (13:00.503)
Yeah.
Jamie (13:21.706)
the red grapes because I know that's what the kids like, but it's like, if I like the green grapes, every once in a while I should get to buy the green grapes, you know, and I do, that's a silly example, but it's just making everything great for everybody else, but forgetting that like sometimes it matters what you want to, you know?
Dayle Sheehan (13:28.568)
Totally.
Yes.
Dayle Sheehan (13:38.124)
Yes, absolutely, for sure. And I think it's the curse of entrepreneurial moms the most because it's so, I mean, being a mom is a selfless job and it's a hard job and it's a job that, you know, you want to do for your kids and your family and you want your kids to be so loved and all the things, but, and that's allowed, but you do just need to remember to put yourself on the list. If your favorite fruit in the world,
Jamie (13:45.256)
Yeah. Yeah.
Dayle Sheehan (14:07.862)
is kiwi but nobody else will eat a kiwi, still order yourself some kiwis. Like that's like self-care, like one little sliver of it. You know, if you love getting to go to the grocery store by yourself versus bring all the kids, make arrangements that that's the one thing you're not doing with the kids. It's just not a thing.
Jamie (14:11.057)
Yeah.
Jamie (14:28.17)
But it can also bleed into entrepreneurship without children as well. For instance, here's an example. I don't like to work Saturdays and Sundays, nor do I like to work past like three, four o'clock because now my kids are home from school and this is their time. And that's what I've decided for my life. And so when somebody is adamant that they need to meet with me on a Sunday at 6 p.m., I'm like, rather than just saying yes, because it's a potential client or it's a current client,
Dayle Sheehan (14:31.893)
yes.
Dayle Sheehan (14:54.083)
Why though?
Jamie (14:58.112)
I need to check in with myself and be like, no, it's okay to have boundaries. And my boundaries are that I work Monday through Friday, eight or seven or whatever your hours are and say like, that actually doesn't work for me. And it's also okay if it does work for you every once in a while to be like, you know what? I'd love to get this off my list so that Monday morning it's not still looming. So it's just checking in with yourself to make sure that you're on the list and it's not everybody else's wants, your clients, your family, your potential clients, your husband, whatever.
Dayle Sheehan (15:02.806)
sure.
Dayle Sheehan (15:17.582)
Totally.
Jamie (15:28.096)
the kids sports team, checking in with yourself to be like, does this work for me? Am I okay with this? Or should I suggest something else? Or should I say no and here's an alternative? Put yourself on the list.
Dayle Sheehan (15:28.269)
Whatever.
Dayle Sheehan (15:36.451)
Mm-hmm.
Dayle Sheehan (15:40.042)
I agree. Yeah, my, so my probably like final one I would say is similar to putting yourself on the list, but in a more specific area. And don't forget joy. We can really, really be like, okay, work matters. I want to make money. I want to have this freedom. I want this business to be a success. And we can spend evenings, weekends, exactly like you were saying, and flood our whole life with work.
and then jump them in at work happens. But what about joy? What about fun? What about new experiences? What about having some form of balance where you stop at suppertime and eat dinner with like for me, with my husband, with going on the trip and putting my laptop away for some of the days, you know, like when you run your own business and there's nobody else to like fill in the gaps, sometimes you have to check your email. Sometimes you do have to write somebody back.
but having boundaries on what that looks like and sticking with them and making sure you're actually happy with that. But always having a life outside of it too that brings you joy and is the reason to do it all.
Jamie (16:50.784)
And just doing things because you want to, because they make you happy.
Dayle Sheehan (16:55.19)
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Jamie (16:58.848)
like, you know, going skiing because you feel like it one day, you know, don't forget that like outside of your business and outside of your other hats that you may wear, whether that's like, you know, motherhood or whatever, entrepreneur, small business owner, whatever other hats you wear, you're a human being at the end of the day. And you should get to say, I'm just doing this because I feel like it, because I want to, because it brings me joy. I love walking in nature. I love going on a hike. I love.
Dayle Sheehan (17:03.096)
Yeah.
Dayle Sheehan (17:19.852)
Exactly.
Dayle Sheehan (17:24.099)
Totally.
Dayle Sheehan (17:28.224)
Mm I love my workout. love. Yeah.
Jamie (17:28.956)
planning a trip. I love just saying yes to new experiences. I want to go skydiving today. Like you should get to just choose joy when you feel like it too because you matter.
Dayle Sheehan (17:40.204)
I Exactly.
Jamie (17:43.528)
Okay, well I think that's it. I mean that's, you matter and that's the whole reason we're here. So I think that's what we ended.
Dayle Sheehan (17:49.778)
Exactly. And we want you to be rich girls. Let's do that. That's the mission ladies. Let's jump in and make the money to have the life you want.
Jamie (17:53.992)
Yeah, let's do that.
Jamie (18:02.054)
Absolutely. Until next time, bye guys!
Dayle Sheehan (18:03.628)
Have a great week.